You can start by finding the solutions to x2+5x+3. When you plug that into the quadratic formula, you will end up with −5±√132.(−5+√132)2=38−10√13 and (−5−√132)2=38+10√13 since those are the solutions to the second quadratic, we know that the second quadratic is the expanded form of (x−38+10√13)(x−38−10√13). When you expand that, you get x2−76x+144. b=−76, and c=144, so b+c=68.