Hey guys.
I'm just totally drawing a blank here...
$${\frac{{\mathtt{2}}}{{\mathtt{3}}}}{\mathtt{\,\times\,}}{\mathtt{X}}{\mathtt{\,\small\textbf+\,}}{\frac{{\mathtt{4}}}{{\mathtt{5}}}} = {\mathtt{\,-\,}}{\frac{{\mathtt{17}}}{{\mathtt{30}}}}$$
When I solve these equations I like to turn everything to decimals and solve them, but here they want the answer in fraction form. I can figure out that X = -2.05 then turn that into X = -2 & 1/20 but can you show me to work this out keeping everything in fractions?
Thanks,
~Ninja
It is always best to leave things in terms of fractions for a most exact answer. The first thing that is tough about this is that you dont have a common denominator, so let's fix that!
We want out common denominator to be 30 here because it is easy to turn 3 and 5 into thirty with multiplication. Multiply $${\frac{{\mathtt{2}}}{{\mathtt{3}}}}$$2/3 by 10/10 (which you should notice is legal because we are just multiplying by one) and multiply 4/5 by 6/6. This gives us a new expression
(20/30)x+(24/30)=-17/30
Let's subtract (24/30) from both sides to get (20/30)x=-41/30
Now we can multiply both sides by 30 so that there are no longer any fractions
20x=-41 And now we divide by 20 to get x=-41/20 which is exactly the same as -2.05
Subtract 4/5 from each side ..... we have...
(2/3)x = -(17/30) - (4/5) and 4/5 = 24/30 ....so we have
(2/3)x = -(17/30) - (24/30)
(2/3)x = -41/30 multiply both sides by (3/2)
x = (-41/30) * ( 3/2) (cancel the 30 and the 3 )
= (-41/10) * (1/2) = (-41/20)
And that's it, ND.....
Thanks CPhill.
I'm not sure why I was getting tripped up on that one, but you explained it well.
"Thumbs up and points!"
It is always best to leave things in terms of fractions for a most exact answer. The first thing that is tough about this is that you dont have a common denominator, so let's fix that!
We want out common denominator to be 30 here because it is easy to turn 3 and 5 into thirty with multiplication. Multiply $${\frac{{\mathtt{2}}}{{\mathtt{3}}}}$$2/3 by 10/10 (which you should notice is legal because we are just multiplying by one) and multiply 4/5 by 6/6. This gives us a new expression
(20/30)x+(24/30)=-17/30
Let's subtract (24/30) from both sides to get (20/30)x=-41/30
Now we can multiply both sides by 30 so that there are no longer any fractions
20x=-41 And now we divide by 20 to get x=-41/20 which is exactly the same as -2.05
Thanks jboy.
I get what your saying with the whole fractions being the best answer thing. When I just turn everything into decimals on equations like this, sometimes I get answers like X = .454545 and I have no idea how to turn that into a fraction...but it's easy to turn a fraction into a decimal!
Thanks for the feedback guys, I appreciate it!
Exactly! It is always easy to turn a fraction into a decimal but sometimes it is very difficult and cumbersone to turn a decimal into a fraction.
This is a little off- topic, but let me show you how to turn a "repeating" decimal into a fraction........
Suppose we have the decimal .127 where the '27" part repeats
Combine the non-repeating part (1) with the repeating part (27)...so we have... 127
Now from this, subtract the non-repeating part, so we have 127 - 1 = 126
Divide this by a number comprised of 9s and 0s, where the number of 9s = the number of repeating digits (2) and the number of 0s = the number of non-repeating digits (1). So the number we divide by = 990....so we have
126/990 = .127(2727....)
Using your example, ND, of .454545
Combining the repeating part with the non-repeating part = 45 (The non-repeating part = 0, in this case)
Subtracting the non-repeating part from the repeating part gives 45 - 0 = 45
Write this over 99 (the number of 9s = the number of repeated digits, we have no non-repeating ones, thus, there are no 0s)
So 45/99 = .4545(4545.....)
In effect, if there is no non-repeating part, we just write our repeating part over the number of 9s = the number of digits in the repeating part !!!
Note also that you may be able to reduce the resulting fraction to a more simple form.....
And that's it !!
(Try writing .817(1717.....) as a fraction using this procedure....)
That's an interesting trick, CPhill.
Let's try the example you gave: .817(1717.....)
Add the repeating part to the non-repeating part.
817
Subtract the non-repeating part
817-8 = 809
Put this over 9's and 0's
809/990 = .817(1717...)
This seems to work pretty well, but I think I'll stick to solving it in the fraction form if possible!
2/3X +4/5 = -17/30
30 is the lowest common denominator so I would just multiply both sides by 30 right from the beginning.
$$\begin{array}{rll}
30\left(\frac{2x}{3}+\frac{4}{5}\right)&=&30\times\frac{-17}{30}\\\\
20x+24&=&-17\\\\
20x&=&-41\\\\
x&=&\frac{-41}{20}\\\\
x&=&-2.05
\end{array}$$