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how do I solve for x in this... xy+5=x+7? I cant figure it out and I really need help.

 Oct 12, 2014

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Hi Braksess,

I really like your dogged determination to understand this!

 

I think you are having problems with this

 

xyx=x(y1)

 

so that is the bit I am going to look at.

 

Look at the rectangle below.     

The area of the whole rectangle is      x×yunits2

I have cut a little rectangle off the end.  The area of the cut off bit is   1×x=xunits2

so the area that is left when you take away the litle bit at the end is  

 x×yxorjustxyx

 

 

The area that is left after you take away the bit at the end is displayed in yellow below.

The length of the top is y-1  (because 1 unit was cut off)

The side is still x  units

The area is   x(y-1)

 

SO          xyx=x(y1)

 

LETS look at it the other way around

you probably know that     3(x-1)=3*x-3*1 = 3x-3

It works with letters too

x(y1)=x×yx×1=xyx

NOW lets look at how to factorise it going in the other direction.

xyx=x×yx×1$xisacommonfactorsowecanfactoritoutandwewillbeleftwith$y1$inthebracket.$=x(y1)

 Oct 14, 2014
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To solve for x, get all the x-terms to one side and everything else to the other side:

xy + 5  =  x + 7

Subtract 5 from both sides:

xy  =  x + 2

Subtract x from both sides:

xy - x  =  2

Factor out the x:

x(y - 1)  =  2

Divide both sides by y - 1:

x  =  2 / (y - 1)

 Oct 12, 2014
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how did you keep the x after you subtracted it from both sides?

 Oct 12, 2014
 #3
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I think you're getting a little confused here, Braksess....here's what geno did

xy  =  x + 2     ( subtract x from both sides )

-x      -x

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xy - x  = 2       (note that he didn't "divide away" x......I think this is what you were thinking......!)

Can you take it from here??

 

 Oct 13, 2014
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y=2? i know im wrong but im still really confused,  xy/-x=x-2/x im trying to find x. maybe its x-x=-y-2...so....0=y-2

 Oct 13, 2014
 #5
avatar+130458 
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Let's try this again.............

Note that we have......

 xy + 5 = x + 7    now....just subtract 5 from both sides....

       -5 =      -5

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xy        =  x + 2   

Now...I want to get rid of the x on the right side.....so I can just subtract it from both sides...so we have

xy       =  x + 2

     -x      -x

------------------

xy - x  =        2         Notice how the x "disappeared from the right and ended up on the left as a "negative??"

Now...I just want to "factor the x on the left out of both terms....so we have....

x(y - 1)  = 2       do you see that???

So this is like having

x * (y - 1)  = 2        and since I want the "x" by itself on the left....we can divide both sides by  (y - 1)

So

x* (y - 1)/(y-1)  = 2/(y-1)      and the (y -1)s on the left "cancel" leaving us with......

x   =   2/(y - 1)     !!!!

Does that help ???  

(We can't get any "numerical" values for x or y, because we don't know the value of either  !!!!  )

 

 Oct 13, 2014
 #6
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i still dont get how an x turned into a 1? i get it all up till there

 Oct 13, 2014
 #7
avatar+118696 
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Best Answer

Hi Braksess,

I really like your dogged determination to understand this!

 

I think you are having problems with this

 

xyx=x(y1)

 

so that is the bit I am going to look at.

 

Look at the rectangle below.     

The area of the whole rectangle is      x×yunits2

I have cut a little rectangle off the end.  The area of the cut off bit is   1×x=xunits2

so the area that is left when you take away the litle bit at the end is  

 x×yxorjustxyx

 

 

The area that is left after you take away the bit at the end is displayed in yellow below.

The length of the top is y-1  (because 1 unit was cut off)

The side is still x  units

The area is   x(y-1)

 

SO          xyx=x(y1)

 

LETS look at it the other way around

you probably know that     3(x-1)=3*x-3*1 = 3x-3

It works with letters too

x(y1)=x×yx×1=xyx

NOW lets look at how to factorise it going in the other direction.

xyx=x×yx×1$xisacommonfactorsowecanfactoritoutandwewillbeleftwith$y1$inthebracket.$=x(y1)

Melody Oct 14, 2014

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