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# Triangle Help! (Needs trigonometry)

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In a triangle with sides a, b and c,   $$\frac3{a+b+c}=\frac1{a+b} + \frac1{a+c}$$.
Find the angle between the sides b and c, in degrees.

Jan 1, 2020

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Hi MathCuber,

I did this without any trig until the very end.

Just expand and simplify for starters.

Then compare what you have to the cosine rule and you should be able to work it out.

If you have questions then ask.  Show or tell me what you have done though.

This is a teaching answer. Please noone interfer with a more full answer.

Jan 1, 2020
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I expanded it to $$a^2-2ab-2ac-b^2-c^2-bc=2a^2$$.

I don't know how to compare that to the law of cosines: can I simplify further?

MathCuber  Jan 2, 2020
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That is not finished and it is not what I got.

Can you show your working so I can see where you went wrong?

(mine could be wrong too but it worked out nicely so it probbly isn't)

Did you start it one side at a time or what?

Melody  Jan 2, 2020
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I multiplied everything by (a+b+c)(a+b)(a+c) and simplified it to where there is only one term on one side that is squared because that is like the cosine rule.

MathCuber  Jan 2, 2020
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ok that should have worked.

$$\frac3{a+b+c}=\frac1{a+b} + \frac1{a+c}\\ \frac3{a+b+c}(a+b+c)(a+b)(a+c)=\frac1{a+b}(a+b+c)(a+b)(a+c) + \frac1{a+c}(a+b+c)(a+b)(a+c)\\ 3(a+b)(a+c)=(a+b+c)(a+c) + (a+b+c)(a+b)\\ 3(a^2+ac+ab+bc)=a^2+ac+ab+bc+ca+c^2\quad +\quad a^2+ab+ab+b^2+ca+cb\\ 3a^2+3ac+3ab+3bc=2a^2+3ac+3ab+2bc+c^2+b^2\\$$

You can take it from there.  I doubt that you will get the same answer as you got before.

When you get the algebra right you can continue to the cosine rule relevance.

And yes, you do want to make it look as much like the cosine rule as possible.

Melody  Jan 2, 2020
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What is wrtong with you MathCuber  ??

Your getting propfessional teaching help and you vote it down.

Are you one of these cheating creeps who only is interested in the answer?

I thought you were better than that!

Jan 2, 2020
edited by Melody  Jan 2, 2020
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Do the upvotes and downvotes really matter that much??

I am sorry if they do.

MathCuber  Jan 2, 2020
edited by MathCuber  Jan 2, 2020
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They are an insult. Like a slap in the face.

Why would you punish a person who is trying to help you.  EVEN if you think the punishment is inconsequential (or anonymous)?

Melody  Jan 2, 2020
edited by Melody  Jan 2, 2020