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Here's an old one that I ran across the other day.....I still think it's a nice problem.....

 

As seen below, a line is tangent to the parabola y = x^2 at  C

 

At the same time, a line with the same slope cuts the parabola at AB

 

Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to prove that the area ADCBA [ the area between the segment AB and the "bottom"  part of the parabola ] is 4/3 that of the area of triangle ABC.........Good Luck....!!!!

 

 

cool cool cool

 Oct 29, 2015

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Here's an old one that I ran across the other day.....I still think it's a nice problem.....

As seen below, a line is tangent to the parabola y = x^2 at  C

At the same time, a line with the same slope cuts the parabola at AB

Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to prove that the area ADCBA [ the area between the segment AB and the "bottom"  part of the parabola ] is 4/3 that of the area of triangle ABC.........Good Luck....!!!!

 

We have:

 parabola:y=x2y=2xline ¯AB:y=mx+bA=(xaya)=(xax2a)B=(xbyb)=(xbx2b)C=(xcyc)=(xcx2c) 

 

1. Area of triangle ABC

2Atriangle=2At=|(CA)×(BA)|=|(xcxax2cx2a)×(xbxax2bx2a)|=(xcxa)(x2bx2a)(x2cx2a)(xbxa)=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xb+xa)(xcxa)(xc+xa)(xbxa)=(xcxa)(xbxa)[(xb+xa)(xc+xa)]=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xb+xaxcxa)2At=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xbxc)

 

slope of the line ¯AB:2xc=m=ybyaxbxa=x2bx2axbxa=(xbxa)(xb+xa)xbxa=xb+xa2xc=m=xb+xa2xc=xb+xa xc=xb+xa2 xcxa=xb+xa2xa=xbxa2xbxc=xbxb+xa2=xbxa22At=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xbxc)|xcxa=xbxc=xbxa22At=(xbxa2)(xbxa)(xbxa2)2At=14(xbxa)3 At=18(xbxa)3 

 

2. Area of Parabola(Button) ADCBA


Aparabola=Ap=xbxa(mx+b) dxxbxax2 dx=mxbxax dx+bxbxadxxbxax2 dx=m2[x2]xbxa+b[x]xbxa13[x3]xbxaAp=m2(x2bx2a)+b(xbxa)13(x3bx3a) (ab)3=a33a2b+3ab2b3a3b3=(ab)3+3ab(ab)a3b3=(ab)[(ab)2+3ab]a3b3=(ab)[a22ab+b2+3ab]a3b3=(ab)[a2+ab+b2] x3bx3a=(xbxa)(x2b+xbxa+x2a)Ap=m2(xbxa)(xb+xa)+b(xbxa)13(xbxa)(x2b+xbxa+x2a)Ap=(xbxa)[m2(xb+xa)+b13(x2b+xbxa+x2a)]line :y=mx+bm= ?b= ? yyaxxa=ybyaxbxayya=(xxa)ybyaxbxay=(xxa)ybyaxbxa+yayb=x2bya=x2ay=(xxa)x2bx2axbxa+x2ay=(xxa)(xbxa)(xb+xa)xbxa+x2ay=(xxa)(xb+xa)+x2ay=x(xb+xa)xa(xb+xa)+x2ay=x(xb+xa)xaxbx2a+x2ay=x(xb+xa)=m xaxb=b m=xb+xab=xaxbAp=(xbxa)[xb+xa2(xb+xa)xaxb13(x2b+xbxa+x2a)]|66Ap=16(xbxa)[3(xb+xa)26xaxb2(x2b+xbxa+x2a)]Ap=16(xbxa)(3x2b+6xbxa+3x2a6xaxb2x2b2xbxa2x2a)Ap=16(xbxa)(x2b2xbxa+x2a)Ap=16(xbxa)(xbxa)2 Ap=16(xbxa)3 

 

3. Ratio AtAp

 

AtAp=18(xbxa)316(xbxa)3AtAp=1861AtAp=68AtAp=34

 

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 Oct 30, 2015
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Omi67 's answer

 

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/the-solution-way-with-an-example/new#edit

 

(not general so Chris did not accept it  angry   )

 

I liked it!

 Oct 30, 2015
 #3
avatar+26396 
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Best Answer

Here's an old one that I ran across the other day.....I still think it's a nice problem.....

As seen below, a line is tangent to the parabola y = x^2 at  C

At the same time, a line with the same slope cuts the parabola at AB

Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to prove that the area ADCBA [ the area between the segment AB and the "bottom"  part of the parabola ] is 4/3 that of the area of triangle ABC.........Good Luck....!!!!

 

We have:

 parabola:y=x2y=2xline ¯AB:y=mx+bA=(xaya)=(xax2a)B=(xbyb)=(xbx2b)C=(xcyc)=(xcx2c) 

 

1. Area of triangle ABC

2Atriangle=2At=|(CA)×(BA)|=|(xcxax2cx2a)×(xbxax2bx2a)|=(xcxa)(x2bx2a)(x2cx2a)(xbxa)=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xb+xa)(xcxa)(xc+xa)(xbxa)=(xcxa)(xbxa)[(xb+xa)(xc+xa)]=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xb+xaxcxa)2At=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xbxc)

 

slope of the line ¯AB:2xc=m=ybyaxbxa=x2bx2axbxa=(xbxa)(xb+xa)xbxa=xb+xa2xc=m=xb+xa2xc=xb+xa xc=xb+xa2 xcxa=xb+xa2xa=xbxa2xbxc=xbxb+xa2=xbxa22At=(xcxa)(xbxa)(xbxc)|xcxa=xbxc=xbxa22At=(xbxa2)(xbxa)(xbxa2)2At=14(xbxa)3 At=18(xbxa)3 

 

2. Area of Parabola(Button) ADCBA


Aparabola=Ap=xbxa(mx+b) dxxbxax2 dx=mxbxax dx+bxbxadxxbxax2 dx=m2[x2]xbxa+b[x]xbxa13[x3]xbxaAp=m2(x2bx2a)+b(xbxa)13(x3bx3a) (ab)3=a33a2b+3ab2b3a3b3=(ab)3+3ab(ab)a3b3=(ab)[(ab)2+3ab]a3b3=(ab)[a22ab+b2+3ab]a3b3=(ab)[a2+ab+b2] x3bx3a=(xbxa)(x2b+xbxa+x2a)Ap=m2(xbxa)(xb+xa)+b(xbxa)13(xbxa)(x2b+xbxa+x2a)Ap=(xbxa)[m2(xb+xa)+b13(x2b+xbxa+x2a)]line :y=mx+bm= ?b= ? yyaxxa=ybyaxbxayya=(xxa)ybyaxbxay=(xxa)ybyaxbxa+yayb=x2bya=x2ay=(xxa)x2bx2axbxa+x2ay=(xxa)(xbxa)(xb+xa)xbxa+x2ay=(xxa)(xb+xa)+x2ay=x(xb+xa)xa(xb+xa)+x2ay=x(xb+xa)xaxbx2a+x2ay=x(xb+xa)=m xaxb=b m=xb+xab=xaxbAp=(xbxa)[xb+xa2(xb+xa)xaxb13(x2b+xbxa+x2a)]|66Ap=16(xbxa)[3(xb+xa)26xaxb2(x2b+xbxa+x2a)]Ap=16(xbxa)(3x2b+6xbxa+3x2a6xaxb2x2b2xbxa2x2a)Ap=16(xbxa)(x2b2xbxa+x2a)Ap=16(xbxa)(xbxa)2 Ap=16(xbxa)3 

 

3. Ratio AtAp

 

AtAp=18(xbxa)316(xbxa)3AtAp=1861AtAp=68AtAp=34

 

laugh

heureka Oct 30, 2015
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Great work Heureks  laugh laugh laugh

 Oct 30, 2015
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Very nicely done heureka!

 Oct 30, 2015
 #6
avatar+130440 
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Very nice, heureka...I re-worked this one the other day....I did something similar with the integration part, but, for the area of the triangle, I found the length of the base and then used the "formula" for finding the distance from a point not on a line [in this case, C]  to the line segment AB to find the altitude of the triangle......

 

There are probably several other methods to solving this.......I actually found it in a different way a long time ago, but, now........I don't remember exactly what I did.....LOL!!!!!

 

Good job....!!!....5 points from me.....!!!!

 

 

 

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 Oct 30, 2015
edited by CPhill  Oct 30, 2015

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