Suppose ten distinct, positive integers have a median of . ("Distinct integers" means that no two integers are the same.)

What is the smallest the average of those ten integers could be?

Explain your answer in complete sentences.

hint: Read every word in this problem carefully... especially the words "distinct" and "positive"!

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Suppose ten __ DISTINCT__,

What is the smallest the average of those ten integers could be?

Explain your answer in complete sentences.

hint: Read every word in this problem carefully... especially the words "__ DISTINCT__" and "

fixed yo' question

you're welcome.

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After fixing your question, i think i can finally answer it.

suppose we have 10 different positive integers, a_{1}, a_{2}, ..., a_{10}, such that a_{1} 2 3... 10 . the median of those numbers (x) is going to be (a _{5}+a _{6})/2 (because a _{5} is the fifth number, and a _{6} is the sixth number, a _{5}>=5 and a _{6}>=6, so x can't be smaller than (6+5)/2=5.5. also x has to be equal to a positive number divided by 2, otherwise the question doesn't make any sense).

now, you want to minimize the average of those numbers.

first, we need to take a look at the numbers a_{7}, a_{8}, ....., a_{10}. those are the numbers that follow a_{6}. now, suppose a_{6} is already known to us. this means that no matter what the numbers lower than a_{6} are, their values do not depend on the values of a_{7}...a_{10} because a_{6} "seperates" them. so we want to minimize the average of our ten numbers, and because we know what the a_{6} is, we can ignore the 5 smallest numbers, find the minimal possible sum of the 4 largest numbers, and THEN find the minimal value of the sum of the 5 smallest numbers.

so right now, our task is to minimize the sum of the 4 largest numbers. But you agree that if we can minimize EACH of the numbers a_{7}, ...,a_{10 }then the sum of the minimized numbers will be the minimal sum of the 4 numbers, right? (this is the part where you nod your head). so, we know that a_{7} is an integer, and that it's larger than a_{6}, that is also an integer. this means that the minimal value of a_{7} is a_{6}+1. we also know that a_{8} is an integer and that it's larger than a_{7}, meaning that the minimal value for a_{8} is a_{7}+1, and because the minimal value of a_{7} is a_{6}+1, the minimal value of a_{8} is a_{6}+2. we can do the exact same thing for a_{9} and a_{10} and conclude that the minimal value for a_{7} is a_{6}+1, the minimal value for a_{8} is a_{6}+2, the minimal valuer for a_{9} is a_{6}+3 and the minimal value for a_{10} is a_{6}+4. we know that it's possible for those 4 numbers to get those 4 values, meaning that the minimal sum of those 4 numbers is (a_{6}+1)+...+(a_{6}+4)=4*a_{6}+10.

Now let's look at the 4 lowest numbers. we can find the smallest possible value for their sum. so, by using the same trick i used for the sum of the 4 largest numbers we get that the smallest sum possible for the 4 lowest numbers is 1+2+3+4=10. we know that a_{5}>=5 so we know that those values dont affect a_{5} or the numbers larger than a_{5}.

so, we know that no matter what, the smallest possible value for the sum of the 4 lowest numbers is 10. we know that the sum a_{5}+a_{6} is x*2 (because x=(a_{5}+a_{6})/2). so we know what the minimal value for the sum of the 6 lowest integers is (10+2x) but we need to minimize the sum of the 4 largest integers. that sum is a_{6}*4+10, and this means that we need to minimize a_{6}. so we need to find the largest integer a_{5} with the following conditions:

a) a_{5}>=5

b) 2x-a_{5}>a_{5}

c) there is no third condition

we can derive from (b) that a_{5} 5 such that 5<=a _{5}

(minimal sum of the 4 smallest integers)+(the sum of a_{5}+a_{6})+(the minimal sum of the 4 largest integers)=

10+2x+(10+4*(2x-(largest a_{5} such that 5<=a_{5} and a_{5} is smaller than x))

20+10x-4*(largest a_{5} such that 5<=a_{5 }and a_{5} is smaller than x)

and that's the answer.

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