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prove that x^3-3x+1=0 has exactly two positive roots and one negative root.

 

Please don't tell me look at the graph,because I've already seen it and I need to prove it(which means that the graph says nothing to me).

 Nov 8, 2015

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x^3-3x+1=0

 

Let y = x^3-3x+1

y'=3x^2-3

y''=6x

 

Find turning points    y'=0

3x^2-3=0

3(x^2-1)=0

3(x-1)(x+1)=0

x=1 and x=-1

 

When x=1 y=1-3+1=-1

When x=-1 y=-1+3+1=3

So there is 1 root between 1 and -1

When x=0 y=0-0+1=1

So there is 1 root between 0 and 1

Consider concavity

y''=6x  

If    x>0    y''>0   concave up

thereforethere will be another root that is greater than 1

If    x<0   y'' < 0 concave down

Therefore there will be another root that is less than -1

There can only be a maximum of 3 roots because concavity onle chatnges once.

 

So there are 2 positive roots and 1 negative root.

 

 

I am not sure if this is what you are expected to produce but it works for me.   laugh

 Nov 8, 2015
edited by Melody  Nov 8, 2015
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Best Answer

x^3-3x+1=0

 

Let y = x^3-3x+1

y'=3x^2-3

y''=6x

 

Find turning points    y'=0

3x^2-3=0

3(x^2-1)=0

3(x-1)(x+1)=0

x=1 and x=-1

 

When x=1 y=1-3+1=-1

When x=-1 y=-1+3+1=3

So there is 1 root between 1 and -1

When x=0 y=0-0+1=1

So there is 1 root between 0 and 1

Consider concavity

y''=6x  

If    x>0    y''>0   concave up

thereforethere will be another root that is greater than 1

If    x<0   y'' < 0 concave down

Therefore there will be another root that is less than -1

There can only be a maximum of 3 roots because concavity onle chatnges once.

 

So there are 2 positive roots and 1 negative root.

 

 

I am not sure if this is what you are expected to produce but it works for me.   laugh

Melody Nov 8, 2015
edited by Melody  Nov 8, 2015
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As a matter of interest why shouldn't a graph be used as a proof?  Given that a cubic polynomial has exactly three roots it is blindingly obvious from the graph of this function that it has one negative root and two positive roots!

 

three roots

 Nov 8, 2015
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Descartes' rule of signs gets you there, if you accept it as a proof that is ?

\(p(x)=x^{3}-3x+1\)

has two sign changes, + to -, then - to + so  \(p(x)=0\) has 2 or 0 positive roots.

\(p(-x)=-x^{3}+3x+1\)

has one sign change so  \(p(x)=0\) has 1 negative root.

It follows that the equation has two positive roots and one negative root.

 Nov 8, 2015
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Well,the exercise needs a solution that has to do with bolzano's equations or with continuous functions or the equations that are the aftermath of bolzano's theories,such as m<=f(Xo)<=M

 Nov 8, 2015
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I think that for the Descarts' 'proof ' , the zero number of positive roots has to be ruled out.

\(p(0)=1, p(1)=-1, p(2) =3\)

is sufficient to show that.

 Nov 8, 2015
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Using Melody's answer as a guide, the function has a max at (-1, 3)

 

And since the end behavior of the function as it approaches infinity is negative.......it has to have at least one negative root, because it would have to cross the x axis once as it approaches x = -1  from the left side

 

The y intercept is positive......and we have a min at (1, -1)......so the function has to cross the x axis once between x = 0 and x = 1

 

Likewise, the end behavior of the function is positive as is approchaes positive infinity......so....it must cross the x axis somewhere between x = 1   and infinity

 

Thus......the function has one negative root and two positive ones........

 

 

cool cool cool

 Nov 8, 2015
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Well,the exercise needs a solution that has to do with bolzano's equations or with continuous functions or the equations that are the aftermath of bolzano's theories,such as m<=f(Xo)<=M

 

 

If you knew that is what you needed why didn't you say so.  !!

 

I/We did not know whether you were year 9 or whether you were in University. 

When you said you did not want a graph I thought you meant that you did not want a computer generated graph that you did not understand.

 

Please express your questions better!

 Nov 8, 2015

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