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prove that x^3-3x+1=0 has exactly two positive roots and one negative root.

 

Please don't tell me look at the graph,because I've already seen it and I need to prove it(which means that the graph says nothing to me).

 Nov 8, 2015

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x^3-3x+1=0

 

Let y = x^3-3x+1

y'=3x^2-3

y''=6x

 

Find turning points    y'=0

3x^2-3=0

3(x^2-1)=0

3(x-1)(x+1)=0

x=1 and x=-1

 

When x=1 y=1-3+1=-1

When x=-1 y=-1+3+1=3

So there is 1 root between 1 and -1

When x=0 y=0-0+1=1

So there is 1 root between 0 and 1

Consider concavity

y''=6x  

If    x>0    y''>0   concave up

thereforethere will be another root that is greater than 1

If    x<0   y'' < 0 concave down

Therefore there will be another root that is less than -1

There can only be a maximum of 3 roots because concavity onle chatnges once.

 

So there are 2 positive roots and 1 negative root.

 

 

I am not sure if this is what you are expected to produce but it works for me.   laugh

 Nov 8, 2015
edited by Melody  Nov 8, 2015
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Best Answer

x^3-3x+1=0

 

Let y = x^3-3x+1

y'=3x^2-3

y''=6x

 

Find turning points    y'=0

3x^2-3=0

3(x^2-1)=0

3(x-1)(x+1)=0

x=1 and x=-1

 

When x=1 y=1-3+1=-1

When x=-1 y=-1+3+1=3

So there is 1 root between 1 and -1

When x=0 y=0-0+1=1

So there is 1 root between 0 and 1

Consider concavity

y''=6x  

If    x>0    y''>0   concave up

thereforethere will be another root that is greater than 1

If    x<0   y'' < 0 concave down

Therefore there will be another root that is less than -1

There can only be a maximum of 3 roots because concavity onle chatnges once.

 

So there are 2 positive roots and 1 negative root.

 

 

I am not sure if this is what you are expected to produce but it works for me.   laugh

Melody Nov 8, 2015
edited by Melody  Nov 8, 2015
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As a matter of interest why shouldn't a graph be used as a proof?  Given that a cubic polynomial has exactly three roots it is blindingly obvious from the graph of this function that it has one negative root and two positive roots!

 

three roots

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 Nov 8, 2015
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Descartes' rule of signs gets you there, if you accept it as a proof that is ?

\(p(x)=x^{3}-3x+1\)

has two sign changes, + to -, then - to + so  \(p(x)=0\) has 2 or 0 positive roots.

\(p(-x)=-x^{3}+3x+1\)

has one sign change so  \(p(x)=0\) has 1 negative root.

It follows that the equation has two positive roots and one negative root.

 Nov 8, 2015
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Well,the exercise needs a solution that has to do with bolzano's equations or with continuous functions or the equations that are the aftermath of bolzano's theories,such as m<=f(Xo)<=M

 Nov 8, 2015
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I think that for the Descarts' 'proof ' , the zero number of positive roots has to be ruled out.

\(p(0)=1, p(1)=-1, p(2) =3\)

is sufficient to show that.

 Nov 8, 2015
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Using Melody's answer as a guide, the function has a max at (-1, 3)

 

And since the end behavior of the function as it approaches infinity is negative.......it has to have at least one negative root, because it would have to cross the x axis once as it approaches x = -1  from the left side

 

The y intercept is positive......and we have a min at (1, -1)......so the function has to cross the x axis once between x = 0 and x = 1

 

Likewise, the end behavior of the function is positive as is approchaes positive infinity......so....it must cross the x axis somewhere between x = 1   and infinity

 

Thus......the function has one negative root and two positive ones........

 

 

cool cool cool

 Nov 8, 2015
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Well,the exercise needs a solution that has to do with bolzano's equations or with continuous functions or the equations that are the aftermath of bolzano's theories,such as m<=f(Xo)<=M

 

 

If you knew that is what you needed why didn't you say so.  !!

 

I/We did not know whether you were year 9 or whether you were in University. 

When you said you did not want a graph I thought you meant that you did not want a computer generated graph that you did not understand.

 

Please express your questions better!

 Nov 8, 2015

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