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Input was

(-3)^4/3

 

 

 

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I am actually surprised that the calc interpreted it this way.

I expected it to be interpreted as       $$\frac{(-3)^{-4}}{3}$$      in which case the answer would be     

$${\frac{\left({\left(-{\mathtt{3}}\right)}^{-{\mathtt{4}}}\right)}{{\mathtt{3}}}} = {\frac{{\mathtt{1}}}{{\mathtt{243}}}} = {\mathtt{0.004\: \!115\: \!226\: \!337\: \!448\: \!6}}$$

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Now lets go back to the calculator interpretation

 

$${\left(-{\mathtt{3}}\right)}^{{\mathtt{\,-\,}}{\frac{{\mathtt{4}}}{{\mathtt{3}}}}} = \underset{{\tiny{\text{Error: not real}}}}{{{\left(-{\mathtt{3}}\right)}}^{-{\mathtt{1.333\: \!333\: \!333\: \!333\: \!333\: \!3}}}}$$

 

If I do this by hand I could get

$$(-3)^{(-4/3)}\\\\
=\left[(-3)^{-4}\right]^{1/3}\\\\
=\left[\frac{1}{(-3)^{+4}}\right]^{1/3}\\\\
=\left[\frac{1}{-3*-3*-3*-3}\right]^{1/3}\\\\
=\left[\frac{1}{81}\right]^{1/3}\\\\
=\frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{81}}\\\\
\approx 0.2311$$

 

However I have tried it on 3 different calculators and none of them will give a 'real number' answer.

When you raise negative numbers to fractional powers it certainly cause problems.

Consider when the numerator is 1 and the denominator is an even number, like

 

$${\left(-{\mathtt{9}}\right)}^{\left({\frac{{\mathtt{1}}}{{\mathtt{2}}}}\right)} = {\sqrt{-{\mathtt{9}}}}$$     there is definitely no real number answer to this.

 

$${\left(-{\mathtt{9}}\right)}^{\left({\frac{{\mathtt{1}}}{{\mathtt{4}}}}\right)}$$     there is definitely no real number answer to this either.

 

I am not giving you a proper answer here.  I am just discusing your problem.

I think the calculators work these out with a generated series.  Powers of neg numbers just do not work.

I am sure that Alan and maybe Heureka and CPhill can have a lot more to say on this subject.

 

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Please note that  (-8)^(-1/3) works just fine

$${\left(-{\mathtt{8}}\right)}^{{\mathtt{\,-\,}}\left({\frac{{\mathtt{1}}}{{\mathtt{3}}}}\right)} = \underset{{\tiny{\text{Error: not real}}}}{{{\left(-{\mathtt{8}}\right)}}^{-{\mathtt{0.333\: \!333\: \!333\: \!333\: \!333\: \!3}}}}$$

Correction - it works just fine on my CASIO - it does not work on the web2 calc

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I know this has been discussed before but I'd really like other mathematicians to discuss this again.

Thank you.       

Nov 28, 2014

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