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Apr 18, 2014
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Not to beat this question to death....(maybe Rom and I already have!!!)...but here's something you might want to look at......

Here's a "formula" to calculate the side length (s) of an "2^n-sided" regular polygon inscribed in a circle with a radius of "1."

(Really, the radius length doesn't matter....all circles are "similar." I've just chosen "1" because it's convenient!! By using a "scaling factor," we could show the same  proof for a circle of any radius!!!)

s = (sin(360/2^n)/sin((180-(360/2^n))/2),

where the (2^n) represents the number of sides of the polygon. Note something interesting.....as "n" increases, s "decreases." (Try it for yourself using the on-site calculator!!)

Notice something else.....If you take the output for any particular "s" and multiply it back by (2^n), you will get the perimeter of the polygon. You will also find that, as n increases, this perimeter approaches 2pi (r), when r = 1.

For example, let n be "8." Then the number of sides = 2^8 = 256. And calculating the length of one side of this 256 sided polygon gives us......0.0245430765715311. Now, multiplying this by 256, we get the polygon's perimeter.......6.2830276023119616.......which is > 99.99% of 2*(pi)* (r) , where r = 1.

So, it appears that, as the sides increase to some "large number," the perimeter of the 2^n-sided polygon approaches the perimeter of the circle !!!

If, from the center of the circle, we draw a radial line (r) to each vertex of the polygon, we will form "2^n" triangles............ We can also show that, as the number of sides of the polygon increases to some "large number," the height of each triangle aproaches "r" (the radius of the circle ).

And there's a "formula" to calculate the height of each such triangle....To see how this is dervived, note, that in each triangle, we can draw a line from the"apex" of the triangle such that it interesects the side of the polygon at right angles.... (this is the height, (h), of the triangle). And by the Law of Sines, we have

r /sin (90) = h /sin((180-(360/2^n))/2).......the angle represented by (180-(360/2^n))/2) is just the angle formed by a radial line and the side of the polygon. Note that r =1 and sin(90) = 1. Therefore, the height of the triangle, (h), is just = sin((180-(360/2^n))/2)

As before, let n be = 8. (This, again, represents  a polygon with 256 sides.)

Putting this into the on-site calculator, we get....  (.999924701839). Note how close this is to the radius (1)!!!  Letting n = 10, (a polygon with 1024 sides), we have,  h = .99999529381......even closer to the radius of the circle !!

Putting this all together......by inscribing some "2^n-sided" polygon in a circle (where 2^n is "large"), and drawing radial lines to each vertex of the polygon, we form "2^n" triangles. Each triangle will have a side length of "s" and a height of "h."  Then, the area of each such triangle will be (1/2) * (s) * (h). And multiplying the number of triangles we have, (2^n), by the area of each, we get the area of the polygon .... (2^n)* (1/2) * (s) * (h)   =   (1/2) * (2^n) * (s) * (h) . But note, (2^n) * s equals the perimeter of the polygon which ≈ 2(pi)(r). And h ≈ r..... (as we've shown).

So, the area of the polygon =  (1/2) * 2(pi)(r) * (r)   =     pi * r^2.  (For all practical purposes.)

Apr 18, 2014
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Hi everybody,

Once again we were swamped with questions.  Reinout wrote me a letter yesterday and these are his words; "It seems like I'm trying to empty the sea with a bucket."  I hope you don't mind me quoting you reinout.  The fact is I was feeling the same way.  Reinout's words helped me to formulate a strategy.  

This is my view;

Members must get priority.  Their questions should be answered as quickly and as comprehensively as possible.  Anonymous postings should be treated much more casually.  Only answer them if you have time and want to do so. 

Could people please use the thumbs up and on occasion the thumbs down symbols when viewing other people's answers.  I do not want to be the only one to decide if an answer is good or not.  sometimes I do not even have the knowledge to do this.

Obviously all answerers are here because we like answering mathematics questions but the forum also has to be fun for us.  We need to allocate time to light hearted banter and to group discussions on interesting topics.  We need to be able to play with or learn from some the questions and answers that are presented to us.  We can not do this if we allow routine answering to take up all our time.

Just prior to writing this wrap I posted a note saying 'All members questions have been answered'  This will be my new wording for such posts.

I am sorry, I have not prepared a list of credits.  There were many great answers and I thank you all.

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I thought you might like me to include a few posts that you may find interesting.

These were a question (posted twice) and 2 answers that appealed to me today.  I want to give them both more considerations.  The answers were from Rom and Chris.   I think the answers are similar but I haven't really thought about them properly yet. Thanks guys.

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Some people will find this one interesting

Reinout enjoyed this puzzle question.  I took time out and enjoyed this puzzle as well!  It is not super hard - why don't you take a look as well?

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Hopefully more of the forum features will be working soon.  

Thank you all.  For the Christians amoung you, Enjoy your 'Good Friday' or what is left of it.  Oh, that sounds a bit prejudicial.  I want everyone else to enjoy their Friday as well. 

Melody,

melodymathforum@gmail.com

Apr 18, 2014

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