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Hi all,

 

Lots of great answers the last 2 days from Heureka, CPhill, Geno3141, Oboeduck, Shaniab29544, Nadvera, usiu96, YourAssassin, Hussein101, Alan, Tetration, VampireYuki and Sangyun.  A big thankyou to each of you. 

 

Interest posts:

 

1) Using Gyazo (there are other similar prgrams available if you prefer) - Good info for all levels

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/list-function

2) Puzzle probability question - Always a good one - Thanks Geno

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/suppose-you-re-on-a-game-show-and-you-re-given-the-choice-of-three-doors-behind-one-door-is-a-car-behind-the-others-goats-you-pick-a-do

3) Inverse functions  Thanks Gino

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/g-x-1-2-x-8-g-x-__________-how-do-i-writ-an-equation-for-the-inverse-of-the-function

4) Number Puzzle - Anon's answer requires more brain power than I possess right now.  Thanks CPhil and anon 1 and 2 

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/how-do-i-get-60-using-7-numbers-under-20-only-using-a-number-once

5) Another to consider - Binomial expansion  Thanks Geno.

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/with-how-many-zeros-does-11-100-1-end-explain-with-binomial-theorem

6) A simple but veery important convention for everyone.

Can a sqrt be negative? Great for younger students

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/what-are-the-different-square-roots-of-49

7) Simplifying radicals - for the younger set :)   Thanks Geno

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/the-square-root-of-90-times-the-square-root-of-14-times-the-square-root-of-70

8) Exponential decay     Thanks Chris and Anon

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/a-hiker-in-africa-discovers-a-skull-that-contains-63-of-its-original-amount-of-c-14-find-the-age-of-the-skull-to-the-nearest-year-using-e

*9, 10, 11 &12)  Floor and ceiling functions.  I have included all these in "great answers to learn from".

Thanks Chris

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/need-help-on-this-a-lot-thanks

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/find-all-values-of-nbsp-nbsp-such-that-nbsp-if-you-find-more-than-one-value-then-list-the-values-you-find-in-increasing-order-separated

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/let-nbsp-evaluate-this-sum-has-1000-terms-one-for-the-result-when-we-input-each-integer-from-1-to-1000-into-nbsp

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/the-function-nbsp-nbsp-is-defined-as-find-nbsp

13) Function question for younger students

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/the-function-nbsp-nbsp-is-defined-for-nbsp-nbsp-as-follows-find-all-real-numbers-nbsp-nbsp-such-that-nbsp-nbsp

*14)  This result is really weird graph.  It is a degenerate conic. It has degenerated into two cross lines.    

I have included this in "great answers to learn from".   Thanks Chris  

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/how-do-you-solve-this-please-help-me-2x-2-3y-2-5xy-and-3x-y-5

 

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Jan 9, 2015
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Sat 10/1/14

1) Limit 

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/calculus-of-a-limit

2) A Heureka Special.     Thanks reinout and Heureka   

http://web2.0calc.com/questions/equation_19

3) This inverse function one gave me and Chris a headache.  LOL

 http://web2.0calc.com/questions/please-help_65

 

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Jan 9, 2015
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Thank you Chris for discovering this for us  

 

This Wikipaedia site that Chris has referred us too is interesting.

http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/Degenerate_conic

 

Unlike Chris I like to put my feet up and watch video clips.  There are tabs at the the top and one is for youtube clips.

I just watched the first one and really liked it.

 

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Actually I just found another simple page one conics.  

My knowledge of conics was worse than Chris's in the first place so this is quite enlightening.

http://www.sparknotes.com/math/precalc/conicsections/section1.rhtml

This is what I have learned:

 

The general form of a conic is    

$$Ax^2+Bxy+Cy^2+Dx+Ey+F=0\\

Now if B=0 we have\\

Ax^2+Cy^2+Dx+Ey+F=0\\

If A=C it is a circle\\

If A\ne C \;\; \mbox{BUT A and C have the same sign then it is an ellipse}\\

If A\ne C \;\; \mbox{AND A and C have different signs then it is an hyperbola}\\$$

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Ours has an xy term so B is not equal to zero - I do not know what that makes it.

It is a degenerate conic that is for sure but i am not sure which one.     

 

I would really like more imput from other mathematicians  :)

Jan 9, 2015
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A little more on this strange graph.....

Apparently, if this can be factored into this form....(x + y) (x - y) = 0, we have a graph of intersecting lines...let's see...

2x^2 - 3y^2 = 5xy 

2x^2 - 5xy - 3y^2 = 0

(2x + y) (x - 3y)  = 0

Since this "reducible" to this form, this is a degenerate conic that will form two intersecting lines.

Here's the graph, again.....https://www.desmos.com/calculator/hwmmfcew1u

Notice something......if we set the first term in the above factorization to 0, we have 2x + y = 0, or just y = -2x...and this is the line ine on the graph that "falls" from right to left!!!  Similarly, doing the same thing to the second factored term produces y = (1/3)x.....and this is the other line on the graph that "rises" from left to right....!!!

And notice one last thing......just like we might do in a quadratic by "factoring and setting to 0" to find the roots....we are doing something similar here....except that, instead of generating "roots," we're generating equations of lines....!!!!

Here's some more info about these odd graphs....http://www.digplanet.com/wiki/Degenerate_conic

 

Jan 9, 2015

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