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1) How do members score points and edit posts?      Thanks for asking Riddler  

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4) Mellie questions (repeated) - geometry   Lots of incircles and circumcircles.  Really interesting questions 

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a) http://web2.0calc.com/questions/a-square-and-an-equilateral-triangle-have-the-same-perimeter-let-abe-the-area-of-the-circle-circumscribed-about-the-square-and-b-be-the-area-of-the-circle

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d) http://web2.0calc.com/questions/find-the-inradius-of-triangle-jkl-if-jk-jl-17-and-kl-16

e) http://web2.0calc.com/questions/let-ab-6-bc-8-and-ac-10

 

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Nov 22, 2015
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Nov 22, 2015
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Hi :)

 

Why does A=p(1+(r/n))^nt give me the correct answer when compounding interest annually, weekly, etc, but A=p(r)^nt only works annually?

 

The first formula is what I remember from previous years, and the second is what my book gives me to solve.

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I don't think that the second forumuar is correct, not for compound interest anyway.

Sometimes you see A=p(1+r)^n 

If you take this as meaning r= annual interest rate as a decimal and n is the number of years invested then it is only good for annual investments.  It is often used this way when students are first introduced to compound interest.

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Your other formula is just a general purpose formula that can be used for any compounding periods.

 

If you really understand what you are doing then you may just like to use this formula   A=p(1+r)^n 

BUT r must be the rate for the compounding period (not the yearly one) and n must be the number of compounding periods (not tne number of years)   

The number of compounding periods is always going to be the number of years times the number of times interest is added each year which is called  nt in your original formula 

AND

the interest rate is always going to be the number of years divided by the number of times interest is added each year. which is called n/t   in your original formula.

That is how I think of it. 

 

However,

if you are really comfortable with your original formula      p(1+(r/n))^nt       you should probably just keep using it. :)   

 

Does that make sense?

Nov 22, 2015
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Nov 22, 2015
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Hi  Mellie,

Can you say hello to me please and let m know how you are getting on.  

Also can you let me know if you understand please.

Have you already studied this stuff and the trigonometry from the last question too.

It seems very hard for you. (Hard for almost everyone.)  ://   

 

 

Let AB=6, BC=8, and AC=10. What is the area of the circumcircle of triangle ABC minus the area of the incircle triangle ABC?

 

I will draw the triangle on the number plane.  The vertices will be B(0,0)  C(0,8) and A(6,0)

I know it is a right angled triangle because 6,8,10 is a pythagorean triad.

 

I am going to find the equation of the circumcircle first.  That is the big one around the outside of the triangle.

Let the centre be Q(h,k) and the radius=R

QA=QB=QC=R

The equation of the circumcircle is  

 

\((x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=R^2\\ \)

\(QA^2=(6-h)^2+(0-k)^2\\ QA^2=36+h^2-12h+k^2\\ R^2=h^2+k^2-12h+36\qquad (1)\\\)

 

\(QC^2=(0-h)^2+(8-k)^2\\ QC^2=h^2+k^2-16k+64 \qquad (2)\\\)

 

\(QB^2=(0-h)^2+(0-k)^2\\ R^2=h^2+k^2\qquad(3)\)

 

 

\(\mbox{Sub (3)  into (1)}\\ h^2+k^2=h^2+k^2-12h+36\\ 0=-12h+36\\ 12h=36\\ h=3\\ \mbox{Sub (3)  into (2)}\\ h^2+k^2=h^2+k^2-16k+64\\ 0=-16k+64\\ 16k=64\\ k=4\\ \mbox{The centre of the circumcircle is (3,4)}\\ R^2=3^2+4^2=25\\ R=5\\ Area = \pi*25 \)

 

 

Now lets look at the incircle

 

Let the centre be Z

The distance from Z to the x axis = distance of Z to the y axis = p

So the centre of the incircle must be Z(p,p) and p must also be the radius of the incircle.

 

Now I need the equation of line joining A(6,0) and C(0,8)

The gradient = -8/6 = -4/3   and the y intercept is  8

So the equation of the line is

y=(-4/3)x+8

3y=-4x+24

4x+3y-24=0

 

Now I need the perpendicular distance from    (p,p)   to the line    4x+3y-24=0

and I know that this distance is equal to p

 

I will use the perpendicular distance formula.

 

\(p=\frac{|Ax_1+By_1+C|}{\sqrt{A^2+B^2}}\\ p=\frac{|4p+3p-24|}{\sqrt{4^2+3^2}}\\ p=\frac{|7p-24|}{5}\\ 5p=|7p-24|\\ 5p=7p-24 \qquad or \qquad 5p=24-7p\\ -2p=-24 \qquad or \qquad 12p=24\\ p=12 \qquad or \qquad p=2\\ \mbox{But p must be less than 6 so p=2}\\ \mbox{So the centre of the incircle is (2,2) and the radius is 2}\\ \mbox{The area of the incircle is }\pi*4\; units\; squared\)

 

 

So the area between the circumcircle and the incircle is

\(Area=25\pi-4\pi\\ Area=21\pi\;\;units \;\;squared\)

 

 

Here is the pic.   laugh

 

Nov 22, 2015

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